A to Z Claims becuase the customer doesnt want to pay for a return
One of the biggest issues we face are a to z claims by customers who don't want to pay for the return's labels, they say the wrong product was sent or its defective and are vague about the problem and this just after opening up a return and being told we do not provide returns labels.
The itmes sent were not defective and the customer received exactly what they ordered
A to Z Claims becuase the customer doesnt want to pay for a return
One of the biggest issues we face are a to z claims by customers who don't want to pay for the return's labels, they say the wrong product was sent or its defective and are vague about the problem and this just after opening up a return and being told we do not provide returns labels.
The itmes sent were not defective and the customer received exactly what they ordered
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Seller_76AUwmqvSyRIM
Very annoying. I'm waiting for one now as the customer wants a free label and they have contacted customer service a couple of times.
They came back saying "give them a free label or else A to Z would be filed on you."
Very unpleasant. I complained to the MD's office about the language which is definitely not the customer's.
Seller_IQo80d99W2DzP
Providing Buyers with this link sometimes helps. Amazon will not remove bad feedback for not giving into the blackmail either!
Amazon CS 'should' but won't be trained to tell Buyers about Amazon Policies, and that return postage is to be paid by them, afterall, the Seller loses by paying shipping, plus Amazon refund processing fees as Amazon don't lose out on their x policies of able to send an item back bought on 1st November, the following January 31st.
AMAZON SPECIFY - Marketplace Returns, LINK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?ref_=hp_left_v4_sib&nodeId=GV38326YW5JX9V9X AMAZON shows: Sellers may issue full or partial refunds for an order as described on this page. Sellers can't charge a restocking fee during the initial returns period or if a product is returned because it's faulty. Refunds are typically processed by Amazon.co.uk Marketplace within 1 week of the Seller's request. The funds will be deposited back in your debit/credit card account and Amazon.co.uk will send you confirmation of the refund via e-mail.
Refunds
Note:
• Sellers are only required to refund standard postage charges corresponding to the least expensive delivery method offered by them.
• When the seller collects an item, the seller has the right to recover the standard costs of collection from you.
• If you use a personalized prepaid return label, the seller is entitled to deduct the return postage from your refund.
Seller_0ujDo2icJlVGS
amazon always protect the buyer regardless. A-Z team decision 99% against the seller. I have lost a lot from A-Z claim. Even when buyer got the product and did not return.Amazon policy says buyer must return the product in order to have a refund. I asked the buyer to return the product fr refund whom wanted refund without retuning the product and he opens a A-Z and A-Z team refund him full, for the product and also refund him the second product too which had no issue. I would rate a case and send it to the team who is over A-Z team and hope you can get a fair decision.
Joey_Amazon
Hello @Seller_ApjrcEftlwp8V,
Thank you for posting here at the Seller Forums and sharing your insights regarding the claims process. You bring up a solid argument and I will be sure to share this information with our partner team.
If you have a specific claim/order you would like us to review, please share the information here.
Sincerely,
Joey
Seller_IQo80d99W2DzP
@Joey_Amazon It happens all the time, most Buyers know if they lie on Amazon, they get away with it! - they all want free return postage, and because Amazon let them get away with it, they do it over and over again.
If you do not give them a free return postage label after Amazon CS tell you, they give you bad feedback. Amazon CS should (but do not) tell them of Amazon Policy that the Buyer pays the return postage for unwanted items (Seller pays to ship to them, usually).
Examples now for you as asked:
204-6532950-2000305 = We provided a pre-paid return postage label, so a loss to us, as Buyer lied and said the phones had a battery issue. But this was Buyer fraud, we sold a Quad (4 handset) Cordless phone, we log the serial number (on Invoice, Seller Notes, and in email to Buyer about returning the item before it was sent back). The item returned says on the Base of the item it was a 'Trio' (3 handsets) and serial number did not match. Buyer still won the A-Z Claim, counts against us, and clearly A-Z Claims not read any of the information on the A-Z Claim given to them, including screenshots, photos, etc. = =
026-9953650-2480314 = Buyer returned item, Buyer said faulty, so, obtained a free return postage label, received back, but Buyer damage, plastic parts snapped off, damaged by the Buyer. We could tell an issue as Buyer impatient to get us to process a refund: 7 January 10.02am = Returned Item Delivered to Seller by Royal Mail (proof – see tracking). 7 January 2.17pm = Buyer chasing Seller about the return. (Amazon allow 24 to 48 hours to reply to messages). 7 January 7.36pm = After closing time, but Buyer impatient, chasing Seller again, saying ‘…it takes seconds to issue the refund …’ (which it does not of course, Sellers do not process refunds anyway, Amazon does after an update from Seller). 7 January 7.57pm = A-Z Claim Raised against Seller - NOTE: From time parcel delivered by Royal Mail, until the time of the A-Z Claim was less than 10 hours (7 working hours) – Amazon allow Sellers 2 full working days, 48 hours to action a return, as they know the Sellers have many returns to check and action, Sellers are not just waiting for 1 Buyers return to be received back and doing nothing else. AMAZON 'SHOULD' STOP ALL A-Z CLAIMS FOR AT LEAST 2 FULL WORKING DAYS AFTER THE ITEM HAS BEEN TRACKED BACK, instead, they just emailed to say refund/part refund, and must be done within 72 hours of them messaging, the claim should have been closed (to not count against a Seller). Then let the Seller process the return within the 2 working days allotted. If Buyer then wants to do an A-Z Claim, they may do so, but by then the refund or part refund will have been completed.
202-7148902-3202719 = Buyer was not given a free return postage, but as the item was not in the same merchantable condition as supplied (Buyer totally ruined the makers packaging, and marked the item), a 50% refund applied, after the return postage as well, Buyer had a £3.01 GBP refund (as a low cost item). A-Z Claims again ignored what had been said, also photos for the partial refund can be seen by them (what is the point of uploading photos otherwise, as that wastes a lot of time, far more than the item was worth), so why then ask us for more information, that was already supplied. The Buyer wants a full refund, including return postage!
If Amazon wants to give away free postage, then maybe they should give free labels out to Buyers and not charge Sellers (make sure with insurance though!), that way it is always Amazon's loss. Free returns though encourage Buyers to buy several items and return ones they do not want, for up to 3 months at this time of year. Often by then, used and have to be put in the bin, so more losses to the Seller. (again Amazon should make it clear that it is only items that are as new, unwanted items to be returned from 1 November until 31 January, not used and broken items.
Seller_0XWc3TbYeT9US
If they claim something is faulty to get a prepaid label, and when it comes back it is not faulty, reduce the refund by the cost of the label (plus anything else if it's been reduced in value through use, etc. Also report customer to Account Health for a violation of returns policy. If you then get an A-Z Claim advise that it was not faulty, the customer had not entitlement to a free return so a valid deduction was made in accordance with Amazon Returns Policy. We have a decent success rate on A-Z claims for this type of thing.
Seller_EXwt7GyQDq9DX
1st : amazon is the biggest scam and fraud of this century.
2nd : customers are on second level