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'Brand Approval '' for second hand books

Can anyone give me any advice on this increasingly prevalent nonsense.?

I believe that it has already been established in the courts that brand approval is not legally required for second hand books. And this is the business that Amazon itself was founded on. Yet the dreaded ''Approval Needed' is getting more and more common.

The most ubiquitous is Penguin, which owns several other brands. its very annoying trying to list a book and its impossible, even though several other people are selling it. And if they can sell it second hand, why can't I ?

The requirements for approval are quite simply impossible, so how do they do it.?

Does anyone from Amazon know why this is happening ?

And does anyone have any suggestions for getting round this ?

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'Brand Approval '' for second hand books

Can anyone give me any advice on this increasingly prevalent nonsense.?

I believe that it has already been established in the courts that brand approval is not legally required for second hand books. And this is the business that Amazon itself was founded on. Yet the dreaded ''Approval Needed' is getting more and more common.

The most ubiquitous is Penguin, which owns several other brands. its very annoying trying to list a book and its impossible, even though several other people are selling it. And if they can sell it second hand, why can't I ?

The requirements for approval are quite simply impossible, so how do they do it.?

Does anyone from Amazon know why this is happening ?

And does anyone have any suggestions for getting round this ?

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I just spoke with someone from amazon on Chat. They assured me that not only did I need brand approval, but also the Authors approval. And that i should just go ahead and fill in the required forms.

It was like speaking to a particularly thick brick wall.

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Seller_eX5PU1b0GGPXn

I have never heard so much rubbish

First sale Doctrine exists in Law Here and Overseas

If Amazon chooses to ignore this they need to be open and honest with sellers regarding their policy not via the back door

But they also need to explain how mega sellers get round this rule when they buy in bulk from charity shops etc

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I wrote to the managing director of the company that publishes one of the books that Amazon wants me to provide Brand authorisation for. He said he had never heard of such a thing and as far as he was concerned I could carry on selling...............

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If proof were needed that the official policy of Amazon is to get rid of small private sellers with single used copies of out of print books then this is it:

Jeff Guy 'The Destruction of the Zulu Kingdom' published 1979 by Longmans with ISBN 0582646863.

According to Amazon I need approval to sell this almost 50 year old out of print book and this is the approval details I need to provide:

Selling application for Brand

You are requesting approval to sell Rocket Dog branded brand items.

Submit documents

At least 1 purchase invoice for products from a manufacturer or distributor

Document must meet the following requirements:

Dated on or after 20 Feb 2026 (within 180 days)

Includes your name and address, matching the information in your selling account

Include the name and address of the manufacturer or distributor

Show the combined purchase of at least 10 units

Omit pricing information (optional)

Please note that, we may verify your submitted documentation by contacting product vendors you identify in your application.

If you’re providing an Amazon Invoice or Order confirmation, please show a combined and fulfilled purchase of at least 50 units.

Who or what is Rocket Dog? The publisher is Longmans as clearly shown on the product details page.

There are no copies of this book available on Amazon either new or used so they know that their requirements are impossible to meet

As the potential customer for this desirable out of print item is deprived of the opportunity to buy, who benefits from this ludicrous restriction of legitimate trade?

There is clear evidence that the book is still important as there are several high priced paperback reprints but not a single copy of the original hardcover publication.

I have been a seller on Amazon for twenty years with an impeccable record of customer service so the desire to control the world by Amazon not only harms me and my colleagues who actually know and like books it also diminishes the value of the book catalogue to serious book collectors who can only acquire what the mighty platform allows to be seen. That was not the intention of the founders who actually wanted the maximum exposure of the entire range of the copyright libraries.

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Seller_RiVN2dcWY6xy9

I just delete the books and use other sites to sell, life is far too short to bother with getting Amazon to admit they are wrong.

My view is that Amazon don't want me to earn them money then **** them

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Seller_AlYpsVHv0gj21

This has been going on for a long time and there have been many many posts about it on this forum.

In the absence of an explanation from Amazon as to why they are doing it numerous theories have been put forward.

I can understand that Amazon might want to have some control over what is being listed in their catalogue - it might otherwise end up being completely riddled with all sorts of "fake" listings ---- but hang on a minute! It is already riddled with fake listings .

My own theory ( I have been wrong before!) is that Amazon must in some way been colluding with some of the top publishers. I have written to quite a few publishers asking if they are objecting to people selling their old titles on Amazon - i have not recieved any answers.

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'Brand Approval '' for second hand books

Can anyone give me any advice on this increasingly prevalent nonsense.?

I believe that it has already been established in the courts that brand approval is not legally required for second hand books. And this is the business that Amazon itself was founded on. Yet the dreaded ''Approval Needed' is getting more and more common.

The most ubiquitous is Penguin, which owns several other brands. its very annoying trying to list a book and its impossible, even though several other people are selling it. And if they can sell it second hand, why can't I ?

The requirements for approval are quite simply impossible, so how do they do it.?

Does anyone from Amazon know why this is happening ?

And does anyone have any suggestions for getting round this ?

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'Brand Approval '' for second hand books

Can anyone give me any advice on this increasingly prevalent nonsense.?

I believe that it has already been established in the courts that brand approval is not legally required for second hand books. And this is the business that Amazon itself was founded on. Yet the dreaded ''Approval Needed' is getting more and more common.

The most ubiquitous is Penguin, which owns several other brands. its very annoying trying to list a book and its impossible, even though several other people are selling it. And if they can sell it second hand, why can't I ?

The requirements for approval are quite simply impossible, so how do they do it.?

Does anyone from Amazon know why this is happening ?

And does anyone have any suggestions for getting round this ?

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'Brand Approval '' for second hand books

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Can anyone give me any advice on this increasingly prevalent nonsense.?

I believe that it has already been established in the courts that brand approval is not legally required for second hand books. And this is the business that Amazon itself was founded on. Yet the dreaded ''Approval Needed' is getting more and more common.

The most ubiquitous is Penguin, which owns several other brands. its very annoying trying to list a book and its impossible, even though several other people are selling it. And if they can sell it second hand, why can't I ?

The requirements for approval are quite simply impossible, so how do they do it.?

Does anyone from Amazon know why this is happening ?

And does anyone have any suggestions for getting round this ?

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I just spoke with someone from amazon on Chat. They assured me that not only did I need brand approval, but also the Authors approval. And that i should just go ahead and fill in the required forms.

It was like speaking to a particularly thick brick wall.

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Seller_eX5PU1b0GGPXn

I have never heard so much rubbish

First sale Doctrine exists in Law Here and Overseas

If Amazon chooses to ignore this they need to be open and honest with sellers regarding their policy not via the back door

But they also need to explain how mega sellers get round this rule when they buy in bulk from charity shops etc

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Seller_uNEFJCO9ASCRo

I wrote to the managing director of the company that publishes one of the books that Amazon wants me to provide Brand authorisation for. He said he had never heard of such a thing and as far as he was concerned I could carry on selling...............

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Seller_ErcPRgZZUqFK6

If proof were needed that the official policy of Amazon is to get rid of small private sellers with single used copies of out of print books then this is it:

Jeff Guy 'The Destruction of the Zulu Kingdom' published 1979 by Longmans with ISBN 0582646863.

According to Amazon I need approval to sell this almost 50 year old out of print book and this is the approval details I need to provide:

Selling application for Brand

You are requesting approval to sell Rocket Dog branded brand items.

Submit documents

At least 1 purchase invoice for products from a manufacturer or distributor

Document must meet the following requirements:

Dated on or after 20 Feb 2026 (within 180 days)

Includes your name and address, matching the information in your selling account

Include the name and address of the manufacturer or distributor

Show the combined purchase of at least 10 units

Omit pricing information (optional)

Please note that, we may verify your submitted documentation by contacting product vendors you identify in your application.

If you’re providing an Amazon Invoice or Order confirmation, please show a combined and fulfilled purchase of at least 50 units.

Who or what is Rocket Dog? The publisher is Longmans as clearly shown on the product details page.

There are no copies of this book available on Amazon either new or used so they know that their requirements are impossible to meet

As the potential customer for this desirable out of print item is deprived of the opportunity to buy, who benefits from this ludicrous restriction of legitimate trade?

There is clear evidence that the book is still important as there are several high priced paperback reprints but not a single copy of the original hardcover publication.

I have been a seller on Amazon for twenty years with an impeccable record of customer service so the desire to control the world by Amazon not only harms me and my colleagues who actually know and like books it also diminishes the value of the book catalogue to serious book collectors who can only acquire what the mighty platform allows to be seen. That was not the intention of the founders who actually wanted the maximum exposure of the entire range of the copyright libraries.

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Seller_RiVN2dcWY6xy9

I just delete the books and use other sites to sell, life is far too short to bother with getting Amazon to admit they are wrong.

My view is that Amazon don't want me to earn them money then **** them

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Seller_AlYpsVHv0gj21

This has been going on for a long time and there have been many many posts about it on this forum.

In the absence of an explanation from Amazon as to why they are doing it numerous theories have been put forward.

I can understand that Amazon might want to have some control over what is being listed in their catalogue - it might otherwise end up being completely riddled with all sorts of "fake" listings ---- but hang on a minute! It is already riddled with fake listings .

My own theory ( I have been wrong before!) is that Amazon must in some way been colluding with some of the top publishers. I have written to quite a few publishers asking if they are objecting to people selling their old titles on Amazon - i have not recieved any answers.

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I just spoke with someone from amazon on Chat. They assured me that not only did I need brand approval, but also the Authors approval. And that i should just go ahead and fill in the required forms.

It was like speaking to a particularly thick brick wall.

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Seller_N0kQDKMgwda6y

I just spoke with someone from amazon on Chat. They assured me that not only did I need brand approval, but also the Authors approval. And that i should just go ahead and fill in the required forms.

It was like speaking to a particularly thick brick wall.

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user profile
Seller_eX5PU1b0GGPXn

I have never heard so much rubbish

First sale Doctrine exists in Law Here and Overseas

If Amazon chooses to ignore this they need to be open and honest with sellers regarding their policy not via the back door

But they also need to explain how mega sellers get round this rule when they buy in bulk from charity shops etc

60
user profile
Seller_eX5PU1b0GGPXn

I have never heard so much rubbish

First sale Doctrine exists in Law Here and Overseas

If Amazon chooses to ignore this they need to be open and honest with sellers regarding their policy not via the back door

But they also need to explain how mega sellers get round this rule when they buy in bulk from charity shops etc

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Seller_uNEFJCO9ASCRo

I wrote to the managing director of the company that publishes one of the books that Amazon wants me to provide Brand authorisation for. He said he had never heard of such a thing and as far as he was concerned I could carry on selling...............

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Seller_uNEFJCO9ASCRo

I wrote to the managing director of the company that publishes one of the books that Amazon wants me to provide Brand authorisation for. He said he had never heard of such a thing and as far as he was concerned I could carry on selling...............

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Seller_ErcPRgZZUqFK6

If proof were needed that the official policy of Amazon is to get rid of small private sellers with single used copies of out of print books then this is it:

Jeff Guy 'The Destruction of the Zulu Kingdom' published 1979 by Longmans with ISBN 0582646863.

According to Amazon I need approval to sell this almost 50 year old out of print book and this is the approval details I need to provide:

Selling application for Brand

You are requesting approval to sell Rocket Dog branded brand items.

Submit documents

At least 1 purchase invoice for products from a manufacturer or distributor

Document must meet the following requirements:

Dated on or after 20 Feb 2026 (within 180 days)

Includes your name and address, matching the information in your selling account

Include the name and address of the manufacturer or distributor

Show the combined purchase of at least 10 units

Omit pricing information (optional)

Please note that, we may verify your submitted documentation by contacting product vendors you identify in your application.

If you’re providing an Amazon Invoice or Order confirmation, please show a combined and fulfilled purchase of at least 50 units.

Who or what is Rocket Dog? The publisher is Longmans as clearly shown on the product details page.

There are no copies of this book available on Amazon either new or used so they know that their requirements are impossible to meet

As the potential customer for this desirable out of print item is deprived of the opportunity to buy, who benefits from this ludicrous restriction of legitimate trade?

There is clear evidence that the book is still important as there are several high priced paperback reprints but not a single copy of the original hardcover publication.

I have been a seller on Amazon for twenty years with an impeccable record of customer service so the desire to control the world by Amazon not only harms me and my colleagues who actually know and like books it also diminishes the value of the book catalogue to serious book collectors who can only acquire what the mighty platform allows to be seen. That was not the intention of the founders who actually wanted the maximum exposure of the entire range of the copyright libraries.

80
user profile
Seller_ErcPRgZZUqFK6

If proof were needed that the official policy of Amazon is to get rid of small private sellers with single used copies of out of print books then this is it:

Jeff Guy 'The Destruction of the Zulu Kingdom' published 1979 by Longmans with ISBN 0582646863.

According to Amazon I need approval to sell this almost 50 year old out of print book and this is the approval details I need to provide:

Selling application for Brand

You are requesting approval to sell Rocket Dog branded brand items.

Submit documents

At least 1 purchase invoice for products from a manufacturer or distributor

Document must meet the following requirements:

Dated on or after 20 Feb 2026 (within 180 days)

Includes your name and address, matching the information in your selling account

Include the name and address of the manufacturer or distributor

Show the combined purchase of at least 10 units

Omit pricing information (optional)

Please note that, we may verify your submitted documentation by contacting product vendors you identify in your application.

If you’re providing an Amazon Invoice or Order confirmation, please show a combined and fulfilled purchase of at least 50 units.

Who or what is Rocket Dog? The publisher is Longmans as clearly shown on the product details page.

There are no copies of this book available on Amazon either new or used so they know that their requirements are impossible to meet

As the potential customer for this desirable out of print item is deprived of the opportunity to buy, who benefits from this ludicrous restriction of legitimate trade?

There is clear evidence that the book is still important as there are several high priced paperback reprints but not a single copy of the original hardcover publication.

I have been a seller on Amazon for twenty years with an impeccable record of customer service so the desire to control the world by Amazon not only harms me and my colleagues who actually know and like books it also diminishes the value of the book catalogue to serious book collectors who can only acquire what the mighty platform allows to be seen. That was not the intention of the founders who actually wanted the maximum exposure of the entire range of the copyright libraries.

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user profile
Seller_RiVN2dcWY6xy9

I just delete the books and use other sites to sell, life is far too short to bother with getting Amazon to admit they are wrong.

My view is that Amazon don't want me to earn them money then **** them

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user profile
Seller_RiVN2dcWY6xy9

I just delete the books and use other sites to sell, life is far too short to bother with getting Amazon to admit they are wrong.

My view is that Amazon don't want me to earn them money then **** them

80
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Seller_AlYpsVHv0gj21

This has been going on for a long time and there have been many many posts about it on this forum.

In the absence of an explanation from Amazon as to why they are doing it numerous theories have been put forward.

I can understand that Amazon might want to have some control over what is being listed in their catalogue - it might otherwise end up being completely riddled with all sorts of "fake" listings ---- but hang on a minute! It is already riddled with fake listings .

My own theory ( I have been wrong before!) is that Amazon must in some way been colluding with some of the top publishers. I have written to quite a few publishers asking if they are objecting to people selling their old titles on Amazon - i have not recieved any answers.

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user profile
Seller_AlYpsVHv0gj21

This has been going on for a long time and there have been many many posts about it on this forum.

In the absence of an explanation from Amazon as to why they are doing it numerous theories have been put forward.

I can understand that Amazon might want to have some control over what is being listed in their catalogue - it might otherwise end up being completely riddled with all sorts of "fake" listings ---- but hang on a minute! It is already riddled with fake listings .

My own theory ( I have been wrong before!) is that Amazon must in some way been colluding with some of the top publishers. I have written to quite a few publishers asking if they are objecting to people selling their old titles on Amazon - i have not recieved any answers.

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