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Amazon Customer Service – How Is It Fair for Sellers to Lose Both the Product and the Money?

I am posting this because I am genuinely shocked by how this case was handled by Amazon Customer Service.

I am an Amazon seller, and in this case the customer purchased an item from me. The parcel became stuck in transit, so I initially issued a refund because I believed the item may have been lost.

Afterwards, the customer contacted me and confirmed that the item had actually arrived. We discussed the situation through Amazon Buyer-Seller Messaging, and the customer clearly explained that they had received the item and understood that the refund had been issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

Most importantly, the customer was completely cooperative and confirmed that they were willing to pay the money back to me.

I then contacted Amazon Customer Service to resolve the situation correctly.

This is where I am extremely disappointed.

According to the Amazon Customer Service representative, the customer was told that they could keep the item AND keep the refunded money, and that they did not need to pay anything back to the seller because Amazon considered it a "goodwill gesture."

So I have to ask:

Where is the goodwill towards the seller?

The seller:

Shipped the order.

Paid the shipping cost.

The customer received the item.

The refund was issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

The customer was willing to return the refunded money once the item arrived.

Yet Amazon Customer Service decided that the customer could keep both the product and the money.

I completely understand that Amazon wants to protect customers, and I support good customer service. But in this situation, the customer was not disputing the issue. In fact, the customer was trying to do the right thing and was willing to repay the refund.

Why should the seller be forced to absorb the entire loss when the customer has received the product and is willing to correct the mistaken refund?

I have attached screenshots showing the conversation with the customer and the response from Amazon Customer Service.

I am not posting this to attack the customer. The customer actually handled the situation reasonably and honestly. My concern is Amazon's decision and the way Customer Service handled the case.

I would genuinely like someone from Amazon Seller Support or Seller Forums to explain:

If a seller accidentally refunds an order because it appears lost, but the item subsequently arrives and the customer confirms receipt and is willing to repay the refund, why is the customer permitted to keep both the product and the refund as a "goodwill gesture" — with the entire financial loss being passed to the seller?

If Amazon wants to make a goodwill gesture to the customer, shouldn't Amazon bear the cost of that goodwill rather than taking the money/product value directly from the seller?

I would appreciate an explanation of the policy being applied here and whether this decision can be reviewed.

This is not simply about one order. It is about the principle of fair treatment for sellers when an incorrect refund occurs and the customer has already confirmed that the item was delivered.

Amazon asks sellers to provide excellent customer service. I believe sellers should also be able to expect fair treatment from Amazon when these situations occur.

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Amazon Customer Service – How Is It Fair for Sellers to Lose Both the Product and the Money?

I am posting this because I am genuinely shocked by how this case was handled by Amazon Customer Service.

I am an Amazon seller, and in this case the customer purchased an item from me. The parcel became stuck in transit, so I initially issued a refund because I believed the item may have been lost.

Afterwards, the customer contacted me and confirmed that the item had actually arrived. We discussed the situation through Amazon Buyer-Seller Messaging, and the customer clearly explained that they had received the item and understood that the refund had been issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

Most importantly, the customer was completely cooperative and confirmed that they were willing to pay the money back to me.

I then contacted Amazon Customer Service to resolve the situation correctly.

This is where I am extremely disappointed.

According to the Amazon Customer Service representative, the customer was told that they could keep the item AND keep the refunded money, and that they did not need to pay anything back to the seller because Amazon considered it a "goodwill gesture."

So I have to ask:

Where is the goodwill towards the seller?

The seller:

Shipped the order.

Paid the shipping cost.

The customer received the item.

The refund was issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

The customer was willing to return the refunded money once the item arrived.

Yet Amazon Customer Service decided that the customer could keep both the product and the money.

I completely understand that Amazon wants to protect customers, and I support good customer service. But in this situation, the customer was not disputing the issue. In fact, the customer was trying to do the right thing and was willing to repay the refund.

Why should the seller be forced to absorb the entire loss when the customer has received the product and is willing to correct the mistaken refund?

I have attached screenshots showing the conversation with the customer and the response from Amazon Customer Service.

I am not posting this to attack the customer. The customer actually handled the situation reasonably and honestly. My concern is Amazon's decision and the way Customer Service handled the case.

I would genuinely like someone from Amazon Seller Support or Seller Forums to explain:

If a seller accidentally refunds an order because it appears lost, but the item subsequently arrives and the customer confirms receipt and is willing to repay the refund, why is the customer permitted to keep both the product and the refund as a "goodwill gesture" — with the entire financial loss being passed to the seller?

If Amazon wants to make a goodwill gesture to the customer, shouldn't Amazon bear the cost of that goodwill rather than taking the money/product value directly from the seller?

I would appreciate an explanation of the policy being applied here and whether this decision can be reviewed.

This is not simply about one order. It is about the principle of fair treatment for sellers when an incorrect refund occurs and the customer has already confirmed that the item was delivered.

Amazon asks sellers to provide excellent customer service. I believe sellers should also be able to expect fair treatment from Amazon when these situations occur.

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Seller_hnJy2He6uzeGX

I am sorry to hear of your disappointment. Allow me to put another point of view - not what you will want to hear.

The Amazon model is based on customer satisfaction - particularly on delivery promises.

When you sign up to sell on Amazon you agree to abide by all the policies and palns to get goods to the customer on time. But you chose the carrier.

When your appointed carrier fails to deliver on time, Amazon wants to keep its customer (not your customer), so they issue a goodwill gesture as you have failed them.

I totally get what you are saying, and if this were another platform I think you would be correct. But in this instance I think you are wrong, despite the logic of what you say.

Sorry

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Maria_Amazon

Hi @Seller_dpAadXRDNfjX1,

When a refund is issued before delivery status is confirmed, that refund becomes final on Amazon's side regardless of what happens afterward. The "goodwill gesture" CS extended to the buyer wasn't charged to Amazon; it was effectively your refund standing as is. That's the mechanism, even when the buyer is willing to pay again.

Going forward, the safest play: wait until carrier confirms lost (not just late) before initiating refunds. If the buyer opens an A-to-Z claim instead, you retain the ability to appeal and provide evidence. Once you voluntarily refund, you've closed that loop yourself.

For this specific order, Seller Support is where you'd explore whether any recovery is possible on your account.

@Seller_hnJy2He6uzeGX nailed the broader context here.

-Maria

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Seller_EXwt7GyQDq9DX

Is it surprising for you ?

Amazon is a biggest fraud/scam of this century and everyone will learn this soon so thats why amazon support is only for fraud buyer .

Even buyer dont want refund but amazon give them refund and ask them to keep product and this is the way amazon created this fraud community which bring more people to amazon .

Just remember , Amazon support is only for fraud people.

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Seller_QFivb25YBNqBc

Amazon never made a promise to keep sellers satisfied or protected. Moreover, the relationship between Amazon and buyers is different to sellers.

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Seller_L8x9c5SGhhKBd

what about seller satisfaction and protection?

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Seller_QFivb25YBNqBc

How did you expect Amazon to resolve this after you voluntarily issued a refund? One reason sellers issue a refund before any case is resolved is due to fear of escalation.

You may have lost money and the goods, but you may also have avoided a claim.

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Amazon Customer Service – How Is It Fair for Sellers to Lose Both the Product and the Money?

I am posting this because I am genuinely shocked by how this case was handled by Amazon Customer Service.

I am an Amazon seller, and in this case the customer purchased an item from me. The parcel became stuck in transit, so I initially issued a refund because I believed the item may have been lost.

Afterwards, the customer contacted me and confirmed that the item had actually arrived. We discussed the situation through Amazon Buyer-Seller Messaging, and the customer clearly explained that they had received the item and understood that the refund had been issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

Most importantly, the customer was completely cooperative and confirmed that they were willing to pay the money back to me.

I then contacted Amazon Customer Service to resolve the situation correctly.

This is where I am extremely disappointed.

According to the Amazon Customer Service representative, the customer was told that they could keep the item AND keep the refunded money, and that they did not need to pay anything back to the seller because Amazon considered it a "goodwill gesture."

So I have to ask:

Where is the goodwill towards the seller?

The seller:

Shipped the order.

Paid the shipping cost.

The customer received the item.

The refund was issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

The customer was willing to return the refunded money once the item arrived.

Yet Amazon Customer Service decided that the customer could keep both the product and the money.

I completely understand that Amazon wants to protect customers, and I support good customer service. But in this situation, the customer was not disputing the issue. In fact, the customer was trying to do the right thing and was willing to repay the refund.

Why should the seller be forced to absorb the entire loss when the customer has received the product and is willing to correct the mistaken refund?

I have attached screenshots showing the conversation with the customer and the response from Amazon Customer Service.

I am not posting this to attack the customer. The customer actually handled the situation reasonably and honestly. My concern is Amazon's decision and the way Customer Service handled the case.

I would genuinely like someone from Amazon Seller Support or Seller Forums to explain:

If a seller accidentally refunds an order because it appears lost, but the item subsequently arrives and the customer confirms receipt and is willing to repay the refund, why is the customer permitted to keep both the product and the refund as a "goodwill gesture" — with the entire financial loss being passed to the seller?

If Amazon wants to make a goodwill gesture to the customer, shouldn't Amazon bear the cost of that goodwill rather than taking the money/product value directly from the seller?

I would appreciate an explanation of the policy being applied here and whether this decision can be reviewed.

This is not simply about one order. It is about the principle of fair treatment for sellers when an incorrect refund occurs and the customer has already confirmed that the item was delivered.

Amazon asks sellers to provide excellent customer service. I believe sellers should also be able to expect fair treatment from Amazon when these situations occur.

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Amazon Customer Service – How Is It Fair for Sellers to Lose Both the Product and the Money?

I am posting this because I am genuinely shocked by how this case was handled by Amazon Customer Service.

I am an Amazon seller, and in this case the customer purchased an item from me. The parcel became stuck in transit, so I initially issued a refund because I believed the item may have been lost.

Afterwards, the customer contacted me and confirmed that the item had actually arrived. We discussed the situation through Amazon Buyer-Seller Messaging, and the customer clearly explained that they had received the item and understood that the refund had been issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

Most importantly, the customer was completely cooperative and confirmed that they were willing to pay the money back to me.

I then contacted Amazon Customer Service to resolve the situation correctly.

This is where I am extremely disappointed.

According to the Amazon Customer Service representative, the customer was told that they could keep the item AND keep the refunded money, and that they did not need to pay anything back to the seller because Amazon considered it a "goodwill gesture."

So I have to ask:

Where is the goodwill towards the seller?

The seller:

Shipped the order.

Paid the shipping cost.

The customer received the item.

The refund was issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

The customer was willing to return the refunded money once the item arrived.

Yet Amazon Customer Service decided that the customer could keep both the product and the money.

I completely understand that Amazon wants to protect customers, and I support good customer service. But in this situation, the customer was not disputing the issue. In fact, the customer was trying to do the right thing and was willing to repay the refund.

Why should the seller be forced to absorb the entire loss when the customer has received the product and is willing to correct the mistaken refund?

I have attached screenshots showing the conversation with the customer and the response from Amazon Customer Service.

I am not posting this to attack the customer. The customer actually handled the situation reasonably and honestly. My concern is Amazon's decision and the way Customer Service handled the case.

I would genuinely like someone from Amazon Seller Support or Seller Forums to explain:

If a seller accidentally refunds an order because it appears lost, but the item subsequently arrives and the customer confirms receipt and is willing to repay the refund, why is the customer permitted to keep both the product and the refund as a "goodwill gesture" — with the entire financial loss being passed to the seller?

If Amazon wants to make a goodwill gesture to the customer, shouldn't Amazon bear the cost of that goodwill rather than taking the money/product value directly from the seller?

I would appreciate an explanation of the policy being applied here and whether this decision can be reviewed.

This is not simply about one order. It is about the principle of fair treatment for sellers when an incorrect refund occurs and the customer has already confirmed that the item was delivered.

Amazon asks sellers to provide excellent customer service. I believe sellers should also be able to expect fair treatment from Amazon when these situations occur.

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Amazon Customer Service – How Is It Fair for Sellers to Lose Both the Product and the Money?

by Seller_dpAadXRDNfjX1

I am posting this because I am genuinely shocked by how this case was handled by Amazon Customer Service.

I am an Amazon seller, and in this case the customer purchased an item from me. The parcel became stuck in transit, so I initially issued a refund because I believed the item may have been lost.

Afterwards, the customer contacted me and confirmed that the item had actually arrived. We discussed the situation through Amazon Buyer-Seller Messaging, and the customer clearly explained that they had received the item and understood that the refund had been issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

Most importantly, the customer was completely cooperative and confirmed that they were willing to pay the money back to me.

I then contacted Amazon Customer Service to resolve the situation correctly.

This is where I am extremely disappointed.

According to the Amazon Customer Service representative, the customer was told that they could keep the item AND keep the refunded money, and that they did not need to pay anything back to the seller because Amazon considered it a "goodwill gesture."

So I have to ask:

Where is the goodwill towards the seller?

The seller:

Shipped the order.

Paid the shipping cost.

The customer received the item.

The refund was issued because the parcel appeared to be lost.

The customer was willing to return the refunded money once the item arrived.

Yet Amazon Customer Service decided that the customer could keep both the product and the money.

I completely understand that Amazon wants to protect customers, and I support good customer service. But in this situation, the customer was not disputing the issue. In fact, the customer was trying to do the right thing and was willing to repay the refund.

Why should the seller be forced to absorb the entire loss when the customer has received the product and is willing to correct the mistaken refund?

I have attached screenshots showing the conversation with the customer and the response from Amazon Customer Service.

I am not posting this to attack the customer. The customer actually handled the situation reasonably and honestly. My concern is Amazon's decision and the way Customer Service handled the case.

I would genuinely like someone from Amazon Seller Support or Seller Forums to explain:

If a seller accidentally refunds an order because it appears lost, but the item subsequently arrives and the customer confirms receipt and is willing to repay the refund, why is the customer permitted to keep both the product and the refund as a "goodwill gesture" — with the entire financial loss being passed to the seller?

If Amazon wants to make a goodwill gesture to the customer, shouldn't Amazon bear the cost of that goodwill rather than taking the money/product value directly from the seller?

I would appreciate an explanation of the policy being applied here and whether this decision can be reviewed.

This is not simply about one order. It is about the principle of fair treatment for sellers when an incorrect refund occurs and the customer has already confirmed that the item was delivered.

Amazon asks sellers to provide excellent customer service. I believe sellers should also be able to expect fair treatment from Amazon when these situations occur.

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I am sorry to hear of your disappointment. Allow me to put another point of view - not what you will want to hear.

The Amazon model is based on customer satisfaction - particularly on delivery promises.

When you sign up to sell on Amazon you agree to abide by all the policies and palns to get goods to the customer on time. But you chose the carrier.

When your appointed carrier fails to deliver on time, Amazon wants to keep its customer (not your customer), so they issue a goodwill gesture as you have failed them.

I totally get what you are saying, and if this were another platform I think you would be correct. But in this instance I think you are wrong, despite the logic of what you say.

Sorry

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Maria_Amazon

Hi @Seller_dpAadXRDNfjX1,

When a refund is issued before delivery status is confirmed, that refund becomes final on Amazon's side regardless of what happens afterward. The "goodwill gesture" CS extended to the buyer wasn't charged to Amazon; it was effectively your refund standing as is. That's the mechanism, even when the buyer is willing to pay again.

Going forward, the safest play: wait until carrier confirms lost (not just late) before initiating refunds. If the buyer opens an A-to-Z claim instead, you retain the ability to appeal and provide evidence. Once you voluntarily refund, you've closed that loop yourself.

For this specific order, Seller Support is where you'd explore whether any recovery is possible on your account.

@Seller_hnJy2He6uzeGX nailed the broader context here.

-Maria

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Seller_EXwt7GyQDq9DX

Is it surprising for you ?

Amazon is a biggest fraud/scam of this century and everyone will learn this soon so thats why amazon support is only for fraud buyer .

Even buyer dont want refund but amazon give them refund and ask them to keep product and this is the way amazon created this fraud community which bring more people to amazon .

Just remember , Amazon support is only for fraud people.

40
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Seller_QFivb25YBNqBc

Amazon never made a promise to keep sellers satisfied or protected. Moreover, the relationship between Amazon and buyers is different to sellers.

user profile
Seller_L8x9c5SGhhKBd

what about seller satisfaction and protection?

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Seller_QFivb25YBNqBc

How did you expect Amazon to resolve this after you voluntarily issued a refund? One reason sellers issue a refund before any case is resolved is due to fear of escalation.

You may have lost money and the goods, but you may also have avoided a claim.

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so I initially issued a refund because I believed the item may have been lost.
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Seller_hnJy2He6uzeGX

I am sorry to hear of your disappointment. Allow me to put another point of view - not what you will want to hear.

The Amazon model is based on customer satisfaction - particularly on delivery promises.

When you sign up to sell on Amazon you agree to abide by all the policies and palns to get goods to the customer on time. But you chose the carrier.

When your appointed carrier fails to deliver on time, Amazon wants to keep its customer (not your customer), so they issue a goodwill gesture as you have failed them.

I totally get what you are saying, and if this were another platform I think you would be correct. But in this instance I think you are wrong, despite the logic of what you say.

Sorry

111
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Seller_hnJy2He6uzeGX

I am sorry to hear of your disappointment. Allow me to put another point of view - not what you will want to hear.

The Amazon model is based on customer satisfaction - particularly on delivery promises.

When you sign up to sell on Amazon you agree to abide by all the policies and palns to get goods to the customer on time. But you chose the carrier.

When your appointed carrier fails to deliver on time, Amazon wants to keep its customer (not your customer), so they issue a goodwill gesture as you have failed them.

I totally get what you are saying, and if this were another platform I think you would be correct. But in this instance I think you are wrong, despite the logic of what you say.

Sorry

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Maria_Amazon

Hi @Seller_dpAadXRDNfjX1,

When a refund is issued before delivery status is confirmed, that refund becomes final on Amazon's side regardless of what happens afterward. The "goodwill gesture" CS extended to the buyer wasn't charged to Amazon; it was effectively your refund standing as is. That's the mechanism, even when the buyer is willing to pay again.

Going forward, the safest play: wait until carrier confirms lost (not just late) before initiating refunds. If the buyer opens an A-to-Z claim instead, you retain the ability to appeal and provide evidence. Once you voluntarily refund, you've closed that loop yourself.

For this specific order, Seller Support is where you'd explore whether any recovery is possible on your account.

@Seller_hnJy2He6uzeGX nailed the broader context here.

-Maria

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Maria_Amazon

Hi @Seller_dpAadXRDNfjX1,

When a refund is issued before delivery status is confirmed, that refund becomes final on Amazon's side regardless of what happens afterward. The "goodwill gesture" CS extended to the buyer wasn't charged to Amazon; it was effectively your refund standing as is. That's the mechanism, even when the buyer is willing to pay again.

Going forward, the safest play: wait until carrier confirms lost (not just late) before initiating refunds. If the buyer opens an A-to-Z claim instead, you retain the ability to appeal and provide evidence. Once you voluntarily refund, you've closed that loop yourself.

For this specific order, Seller Support is where you'd explore whether any recovery is possible on your account.

@Seller_hnJy2He6uzeGX nailed the broader context here.

-Maria

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Seller_EXwt7GyQDq9DX

Is it surprising for you ?

Amazon is a biggest fraud/scam of this century and everyone will learn this soon so thats why amazon support is only for fraud buyer .

Even buyer dont want refund but amazon give them refund and ask them to keep product and this is the way amazon created this fraud community which bring more people to amazon .

Just remember , Amazon support is only for fraud people.

40
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Seller_EXwt7GyQDq9DX

Is it surprising for you ?

Amazon is a biggest fraud/scam of this century and everyone will learn this soon so thats why amazon support is only for fraud buyer .

Even buyer dont want refund but amazon give them refund and ask them to keep product and this is the way amazon created this fraud community which bring more people to amazon .

Just remember , Amazon support is only for fraud people.

40
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Seller_QFivb25YBNqBc

Amazon never made a promise to keep sellers satisfied or protected. Moreover, the relationship between Amazon and buyers is different to sellers.

user profile
Seller_L8x9c5SGhhKBd

what about seller satisfaction and protection?

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Seller_QFivb25YBNqBc

Amazon never made a promise to keep sellers satisfied or protected. Moreover, the relationship between Amazon and buyers is different to sellers.

user profile
Seller_L8x9c5SGhhKBd

what about seller satisfaction and protection?

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Seller_QFivb25YBNqBc

How did you expect Amazon to resolve this after you voluntarily issued a refund? One reason sellers issue a refund before any case is resolved is due to fear of escalation.

You may have lost money and the goods, but you may also have avoided a claim.

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Seller_dpAadXRDNfjX1
so I initially issued a refund because I believed the item may have been lost.
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Seller_QFivb25YBNqBc

How did you expect Amazon to resolve this after you voluntarily issued a refund? One reason sellers issue a refund before any case is resolved is due to fear of escalation.

You may have lost money and the goods, but you may also have avoided a claim.

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so I initially issued a refund because I believed the item may have been lost.
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