Amazon working in 4 dimensions now
Has anyone heard anything about Amazon's new 4 dimensionsal FC?
This response about re-measuring an 'oversize' item that is definitely not oversized definitely suggests that they have one:
"Please find fee the calculation for the ASIN here:
Size tier: Small Parcel
Dimensions: 15.999 Centimeters (Length) x 11.499 Centimeters (Width) x 8.999 Centimeters (Height), 56.500 Centimeters (Girth)
Weight: 322.000 Grams (Shipping Weight), 199.999 Grams (Unit Weight), 322.642 Grams (Dimensional Weight)
The ASIN is not under over-size"
Amazon working in 4 dimensions now
Has anyone heard anything about Amazon's new 4 dimensionsal FC?
This response about re-measuring an 'oversize' item that is definitely not oversized definitely suggests that they have one:
"Please find fee the calculation for the ASIN here:
Size tier: Small Parcel
Dimensions: 15.999 Centimeters (Length) x 11.499 Centimeters (Width) x 8.999 Centimeters (Height), 56.500 Centimeters (Girth)
Weight: 322.000 Grams (Shipping Weight), 199.999 Grams (Unit Weight), 322.642 Grams (Dimensional Weight)
The ASIN is not under over-size"
19 replies
Ange_Amazon
Hi @Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0,
The calculation is a little complicated, but sharing here with you the help page that details it: Product dimensions and volume
Let me know if you have questions following that.
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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ
After the height measurement there's no 'x'. The girth isn't an additional dimension alongside the other 3, it's a separate thing altogether. I have no idea what it is, but it's something, I imagine...
Seller_76AUwmqvSyRIM
Girth is a measurement used in shipping to describe the thickness of a parcel, calculated by adding the width and height together and multiplying by two, or by adding the measurements of the four shortest sides.
But using the figures the OP supplied, a girth of 56.5cm is not correct. Maybe Amazon have another formula, eg length + width + height x fudge factor to make sure the package is charged at a higher rate.
Ange_Amazon
Hi @Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0, @Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ, @Seller_76AUwmqvSyRIM,
Girth is a measure of the overall size of the packaged product, calculated by adding up the dimensions of the longest, median, and shortest sides. Specifically, the formula for girth is: Girth = Longest side + 2 x Median side + 2 x Shortest side
This gives a sense of the overall circumference or "girth" of the packaged product, which is an important metric for determining FBA fees related to the size and dimensions of the item.
Girth is a way of capturing the full 3-dimensional size of the packaged product in a single measurement. It provides a more comprehensive assessment of the product's dimensions than just looking at the length, width, and height individually.
If you want @Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0, I can take a look at your specific support case to try and provide clarity on your situation?
Let me know!
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Ange_Amazon
Hi @Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0,
Based on the content of the help page I'd say yes indeed.
I can look into your specific case if you want to validate this.
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Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0
Can you show me where in the Product Size Tier section it mentions girth: https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/help/hub/reference/G2CD5P9TSDYZA2XG
Ange_Amazon
Hi @Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0,
You're correct that for standard size tier classification, the key measurements are:
- Unit weight
- Dimensional weight
- Longest side
- Median side
- Shortest side
The girth measurement (length + 2x width + 2x height) is calculated and recorded, as detailed in the Product Dimensions page, but it's primarily relevant for Special Oversize classification (>360cm).
To fully understand why Seller Support mentioned girth in your case and to provide the most accurate guidance, I would need to review the specific details. Could you please share the case ID?
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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ
If it's a measure of overall size of a product then why is the girth measurement calculated as the space 4 of the product would take up?
No, by definition it provides a less comprehensive assessment. Comprehensive:
" "More comprehensive" means including a greater number of details or aspects of a subject, making it more complete and thorough. It signifies a deeper, more inclusive, and detailed understanding compared to a simpler or more limited version. "
Girth is, as defined in your posts, the exact opposite of this.
Ange_Amazon
Hi @Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0,
Do you have another case where those measurements were given to you by Seller Support?
11663921492 is a remeasurement request that cannot proceed due to unavailable inventory.
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Ange_Amazon
Hi @Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ ,
I see where you're coming from regarding the definition of "comprehensive." English isn't my first language, so I always appreciate feedback on word choice. However, I would respectfully argue that girth actually does provide a more comprehensive assessment, as it captures the total circumferential space an item occupies in a single measurement.
While it's true that individual L x W x H measurements give us detailed point-to-point dimensions, girth (2W + 2H + L) gives us a fuller understanding of the actual space envelope required for handling and storing the item in real-world conditions. This is particularly relevant for irregularly shaped items where the total "wrap-around" space matters.
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Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0
@Ange_Amazon
There were units there when the remeasurement request was made, and measurements were taken (per my original post where you can clearly see the measurements - L, W and H are all correct and clearly indicate the item is not Oversize.)
Now the units I sent in have sold, so of course they are no longer there.
Can you understand why both the seller support case responses and your responses are frustrating?
Ange_Amazon
Hi @Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0,
Definitely, I do understand your frustration here. Nonetheless, I am also facing limitations to support further.
Could you please provide me the case ID in which those measurements were given to you so that I can check what notes were taken by the associate processing the case (I have access sometimes to notes that not visible to you) and possibly give you further explanation as to why your units have been classified as Oversize? That is if you want me to take a look of course.
Let me know.
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Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0
I already provided the case number to you 4 days ago - 11663921492
Ange_Amazon
Hi @Seller_KBCvmRKLx6ft0,
Ok, I have found the message you mentioned sent by Seller Support in this case 11663921492 on 31st October.
I can confirm that they are adding the Girth of the item as a confirmation that the product is NOT oversize, because as stated before, Girth is used to classify items as oversize if Girth is >360cm.
Hence by saying Girth = 56.500 Centimeters they clarify that it is not oversize.
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