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GPSR - Selling Via FBA On amazon.co.uk only - do I need a EU responsible person?

hi,

If selling via my own branded and manufactured products through FBA only in the UK store (as a UK Ltd). Does a product need to have a EU Responsible person / authorised representative (AR)?

If selling via FBA the product is available for sale in Northern Ireland so potentially all FBA items sold on amazon.co.uk will need a EU representative - even if not directly offered into the EU.

This is from the Amazon GPSR policy: "The GPSR will not apply in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales). It will, however, apply in Northern Ireland, under the Northern Ireland Protocol."

Therefore do all products sold on Amazon UK via FBA need a EU AR?

Thanks!

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GPSR - Selling Via FBA On amazon.co.uk only - do I need a EU responsible person?

hi,

If selling via my own branded and manufactured products through FBA only in the UK store (as a UK Ltd). Does a product need to have a EU Responsible person / authorised representative (AR)?

If selling via FBA the product is available for sale in Northern Ireland so potentially all FBA items sold on amazon.co.uk will need a EU representative - even if not directly offered into the EU.

This is from the Amazon GPSR policy: "The GPSR will not apply in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales). It will, however, apply in Northern Ireland, under the Northern Ireland Protocol."

Therefore do all products sold on Amazon UK via FBA need a EU AR?

Thanks!

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Amazon says no.

The EU rules certainly say yes. So it’s unclear how Amazon came to this assumption.

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Have you had it confirmed with support? I have opt out from having my uk store listings to be moved and translated into eu stores, have all other marketrplaces switched into holiday mode. But still having FBA products that obviously may be sent to NI. It's all so confusing

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There is another thread in which someone has support tell them this, and a mod posted on a thread saying you don't need it as well. That said, it certainly seems like Amazon doesn't know what it's doing with GPSR, as the explanations didn't make sense, and misunderstood the NI protocol.

The example they used of someone buying a plug in an airport then flying to the EU also showed a serious lack in understanding of the difference between selling to a location and moving your own personal property into it.

It's unclear atm if Amazon are about to make a lot of sellers into criminals. All we can do is wait for more information.

I have opt out from having my uk store listings to be moved and translated into eu stores, have all other marketrplaces switched into holiday mode.

Have you made sure your shipping templates don't have EU countries on them?

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Many thanks, I also think there is a big misunderstanding of legislation by amazon.

The easiest way to move forward would be to enable NI being exluded from fba orders but that would require amazon to change their own policy.

Will see how it goes. Even solicitors are unable to answer these questions it all depends on how amazon will act moving forwards with regards to NI. Huge amounts of sellers are only selling on uk marketplace. Amazon will have to refer to this at some point before december to clarify their position.

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That would be ideal.

A good second choice would be if Amazon just blocked the non compliant products from being ordered to NI.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

that is literally from the policy page

Where it gets complex is in how its looking as to how amazon have understood the policy.

The EU is clear - this should apply to 'any product*' that is made available to the EU or NI market. How a product is made available can include delivery options, for example.

Amazon the other day shared this in the forum....

Under GPSR, it's important to look at "the order creation country" not the destination country as order creation country indicates where listing takes place. UK is not a part of EU therefore if the order is created on amazon.co.uk and sent to Northern Ireland, that order doesn't need to comply with GPSR. If the order has been created in any other Amazon EU Marketplace and sent to NI, those listings will need to comply with GPSR regulations.

As an example, when you buy a phone charger at UK airport during your transit flight and you take the charger back to your home in Germany. You can not expect that charger to be complying with EU regulations.

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Seller_Qrqi3Gr1D0qyY

Well... won't be surprised if Amazon will introduce separate NI marketplace or merge customers from Northern Ireland with one of the eu marketplace in order to be compliliant .. UK marketplace will become GB marketplace then :) once Amazon understand the policy in the first place :) there are options to sort things out but sadly they don't listen...

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Or the alternative is to literally do what they are doing on all their EU marketplaces, and allowing the upload of manufacter, responsible person contact details and safety notes.

And f course actually allow sellers on FBA/SFP to not sell to NI!

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GPSR - Selling Via FBA On amazon.co.uk only - do I need a EU responsible person?

hi,

If selling via my own branded and manufactured products through FBA only in the UK store (as a UK Ltd). Does a product need to have a EU Responsible person / authorised representative (AR)?

If selling via FBA the product is available for sale in Northern Ireland so potentially all FBA items sold on amazon.co.uk will need a EU representative - even if not directly offered into the EU.

This is from the Amazon GPSR policy: "The GPSR will not apply in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales). It will, however, apply in Northern Ireland, under the Northern Ireland Protocol."

Therefore do all products sold on Amazon UK via FBA need a EU AR?

Thanks!

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Seller_rziLtjYanKaZR

GPSR - Selling Via FBA On amazon.co.uk only - do I need a EU responsible person?

hi,

If selling via my own branded and manufactured products through FBA only in the UK store (as a UK Ltd). Does a product need to have a EU Responsible person / authorised representative (AR)?

If selling via FBA the product is available for sale in Northern Ireland so potentially all FBA items sold on amazon.co.uk will need a EU representative - even if not directly offered into the EU.

This is from the Amazon GPSR policy: "The GPSR will not apply in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales). It will, however, apply in Northern Ireland, under the Northern Ireland Protocol."

Therefore do all products sold on Amazon UK via FBA need a EU AR?

Thanks!

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GPSR - Selling Via FBA On amazon.co.uk only - do I need a EU responsible person?

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hi,

If selling via my own branded and manufactured products through FBA only in the UK store (as a UK Ltd). Does a product need to have a EU Responsible person / authorised representative (AR)?

If selling via FBA the product is available for sale in Northern Ireland so potentially all FBA items sold on amazon.co.uk will need a EU representative - even if not directly offered into the EU.

This is from the Amazon GPSR policy: "The GPSR will not apply in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales). It will, however, apply in Northern Ireland, under the Northern Ireland Protocol."

Therefore do all products sold on Amazon UK via FBA need a EU AR?

Thanks!

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Amazon says no.

The EU rules certainly say yes. So it’s unclear how Amazon came to this assumption.

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Have you had it confirmed with support? I have opt out from having my uk store listings to be moved and translated into eu stores, have all other marketrplaces switched into holiday mode. But still having FBA products that obviously may be sent to NI. It's all so confusing

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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ

There is another thread in which someone has support tell them this, and a mod posted on a thread saying you don't need it as well. That said, it certainly seems like Amazon doesn't know what it's doing with GPSR, as the explanations didn't make sense, and misunderstood the NI protocol.

The example they used of someone buying a plug in an airport then flying to the EU also showed a serious lack in understanding of the difference between selling to a location and moving your own personal property into it.

It's unclear atm if Amazon are about to make a lot of sellers into criminals. All we can do is wait for more information.

I have opt out from having my uk store listings to be moved and translated into eu stores, have all other marketrplaces switched into holiday mode.

Have you made sure your shipping templates don't have EU countries on them?

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Seller_Qrqi3Gr1D0qyY

Many thanks, I also think there is a big misunderstanding of legislation by amazon.

The easiest way to move forward would be to enable NI being exluded from fba orders but that would require amazon to change their own policy.

Will see how it goes. Even solicitors are unable to answer these questions it all depends on how amazon will act moving forwards with regards to NI. Huge amounts of sellers are only selling on uk marketplace. Amazon will have to refer to this at some point before december to clarify their position.

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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ

That would be ideal.

A good second choice would be if Amazon just blocked the non compliant products from being ordered to NI.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

that is literally from the policy page

Where it gets complex is in how its looking as to how amazon have understood the policy.

The EU is clear - this should apply to 'any product*' that is made available to the EU or NI market. How a product is made available can include delivery options, for example.

Amazon the other day shared this in the forum....

Under GPSR, it's important to look at "the order creation country" not the destination country as order creation country indicates where listing takes place. UK is not a part of EU therefore if the order is created on amazon.co.uk and sent to Northern Ireland, that order doesn't need to comply with GPSR. If the order has been created in any other Amazon EU Marketplace and sent to NI, those listings will need to comply with GPSR regulations.

As an example, when you buy a phone charger at UK airport during your transit flight and you take the charger back to your home in Germany. You can not expect that charger to be complying with EU regulations.

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Seller_Qrqi3Gr1D0qyY

Well... won't be surprised if Amazon will introduce separate NI marketplace or merge customers from Northern Ireland with one of the eu marketplace in order to be compliliant .. UK marketplace will become GB marketplace then :) once Amazon understand the policy in the first place :) there are options to sort things out but sadly they don't listen...

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Or the alternative is to literally do what they are doing on all their EU marketplaces, and allowing the upload of manufacter, responsible person contact details and safety notes.

And f course actually allow sellers on FBA/SFP to not sell to NI!

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Amazon says no.

The EU rules certainly say yes. So it’s unclear how Amazon came to this assumption.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Amazon says no.

The EU rules certainly say yes. So it’s unclear how Amazon came to this assumption.

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Have you had it confirmed with support? I have opt out from having my uk store listings to be moved and translated into eu stores, have all other marketrplaces switched into holiday mode. But still having FBA products that obviously may be sent to NI. It's all so confusing

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Seller_Qrqi3Gr1D0qyY

Have you had it confirmed with support? I have opt out from having my uk store listings to be moved and translated into eu stores, have all other marketrplaces switched into holiday mode. But still having FBA products that obviously may be sent to NI. It's all so confusing

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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ

There is another thread in which someone has support tell them this, and a mod posted on a thread saying you don't need it as well. That said, it certainly seems like Amazon doesn't know what it's doing with GPSR, as the explanations didn't make sense, and misunderstood the NI protocol.

The example they used of someone buying a plug in an airport then flying to the EU also showed a serious lack in understanding of the difference between selling to a location and moving your own personal property into it.

It's unclear atm if Amazon are about to make a lot of sellers into criminals. All we can do is wait for more information.

I have opt out from having my uk store listings to be moved and translated into eu stores, have all other marketrplaces switched into holiday mode.

Have you made sure your shipping templates don't have EU countries on them?

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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ

There is another thread in which someone has support tell them this, and a mod posted on a thread saying you don't need it as well. That said, it certainly seems like Amazon doesn't know what it's doing with GPSR, as the explanations didn't make sense, and misunderstood the NI protocol.

The example they used of someone buying a plug in an airport then flying to the EU also showed a serious lack in understanding of the difference between selling to a location and moving your own personal property into it.

It's unclear atm if Amazon are about to make a lot of sellers into criminals. All we can do is wait for more information.

I have opt out from having my uk store listings to be moved and translated into eu stores, have all other marketrplaces switched into holiday mode.

Have you made sure your shipping templates don't have EU countries on them?

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Seller_Qrqi3Gr1D0qyY

Many thanks, I also think there is a big misunderstanding of legislation by amazon.

The easiest way to move forward would be to enable NI being exluded from fba orders but that would require amazon to change their own policy.

Will see how it goes. Even solicitors are unable to answer these questions it all depends on how amazon will act moving forwards with regards to NI. Huge amounts of sellers are only selling on uk marketplace. Amazon will have to refer to this at some point before december to clarify their position.

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Seller_Qrqi3Gr1D0qyY

Many thanks, I also think there is a big misunderstanding of legislation by amazon.

The easiest way to move forward would be to enable NI being exluded from fba orders but that would require amazon to change their own policy.

Will see how it goes. Even solicitors are unable to answer these questions it all depends on how amazon will act moving forwards with regards to NI. Huge amounts of sellers are only selling on uk marketplace. Amazon will have to refer to this at some point before december to clarify their position.

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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ

That would be ideal.

A good second choice would be if Amazon just blocked the non compliant products from being ordered to NI.

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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ

That would be ideal.

A good second choice would be if Amazon just blocked the non compliant products from being ordered to NI.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

that is literally from the policy page

Where it gets complex is in how its looking as to how amazon have understood the policy.

The EU is clear - this should apply to 'any product*' that is made available to the EU or NI market. How a product is made available can include delivery options, for example.

Amazon the other day shared this in the forum....

Under GPSR, it's important to look at "the order creation country" not the destination country as order creation country indicates where listing takes place. UK is not a part of EU therefore if the order is created on amazon.co.uk and sent to Northern Ireland, that order doesn't need to comply with GPSR. If the order has been created in any other Amazon EU Marketplace and sent to NI, those listings will need to comply with GPSR regulations.

As an example, when you buy a phone charger at UK airport during your transit flight and you take the charger back to your home in Germany. You can not expect that charger to be complying with EU regulations.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

that is literally from the policy page

Where it gets complex is in how its looking as to how amazon have understood the policy.

The EU is clear - this should apply to 'any product*' that is made available to the EU or NI market. How a product is made available can include delivery options, for example.

Amazon the other day shared this in the forum....

Under GPSR, it's important to look at "the order creation country" not the destination country as order creation country indicates where listing takes place. UK is not a part of EU therefore if the order is created on amazon.co.uk and sent to Northern Ireland, that order doesn't need to comply with GPSR. If the order has been created in any other Amazon EU Marketplace and sent to NI, those listings will need to comply with GPSR regulations.

As an example, when you buy a phone charger at UK airport during your transit flight and you take the charger back to your home in Germany. You can not expect that charger to be complying with EU regulations.

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Seller_Qrqi3Gr1D0qyY

Well... won't be surprised if Amazon will introduce separate NI marketplace or merge customers from Northern Ireland with one of the eu marketplace in order to be compliliant .. UK marketplace will become GB marketplace then :) once Amazon understand the policy in the first place :) there are options to sort things out but sadly they don't listen...

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Seller_Qrqi3Gr1D0qyY

Well... won't be surprised if Amazon will introduce separate NI marketplace or merge customers from Northern Ireland with one of the eu marketplace in order to be compliliant .. UK marketplace will become GB marketplace then :) once Amazon understand the policy in the first place :) there are options to sort things out but sadly they don't listen...

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Or the alternative is to literally do what they are doing on all their EU marketplaces, and allowing the upload of manufacter, responsible person contact details and safety notes.

And f course actually allow sellers on FBA/SFP to not sell to NI!

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Or the alternative is to literally do what they are doing on all their EU marketplaces, and allowing the upload of manufacter, responsible person contact details and safety notes.

And f course actually allow sellers on FBA/SFP to not sell to NI!

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