8 Figure Amazon seller and Seller Support is still useless......

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8 Figure Amazon seller and Seller Support is still useless......

I wanted to share our story regarding a recent case with Seller Support. Yes, we are an 8 figure Amazon seller, and if you thought that would improve your experience, it doesn't. We have been selling on Amazon since 2016 and have never needed to put maximum order quantity on our listings. This was a big mistake we found out the hard way recently.

CASE 1: 13400437871

  • We informed Amazon of a competitor purchasing our inventory for a specific ASIN and leaving the inventory in reserve status to ultimately be canceled and returned to inventory 7-10 days later. That order was $42,000.
  • Amazon replied, stating how to report a violation, and sent a link for us to fill out.
  • THE ISSUE: Amazon does not allow you to report the order using that tool when an order is pending. The error message states, "Order not found."
  • I notified the CSR working the case about it not working, and they replied with the exact same response, "We would like to let you know that there is a designated team that investigates such violations from suspected competitors, and sellers can reach out directly to that team by using the below form: (https://sellercentral.amazon.com/abuse-submission/index.html?ref=ahd_asf).

I knew I would get nowhere with this CSR, and I let the case close.

Yesterday 8-15-2023, the competitor who got away with hijacking inventory the first time decided it worked so well that they will hold $150k worth of more inventory. And thats exactly what happened.

CASE 2: 13554260121

  • Using four different orders, someone wiped our inventory of 3 ASINs totaling over $130K in one day! You would think, If we supply the four order numbers showing this and send a screenshot of the tool not working, we would get help, WRONG.
  • Amazon CSR response: "Amazon has been unable to obtain authorization for buyer's credit card yet. Why is an order pending? Here are some of the most common reasons for orders being in Pending status: Amazon has been unable to obtain authorization for the buyer's credit card. The buyer selected convenience store payment but hasn't completed the payment. For an FBA order, the buyer has qualified for free shipping and the order is waiting for all of the order items to be gathered. For an FBA order, if the order is for multiple items but one item is out of stock. Even if Amazon chooses to divide the order and send the in-stock FBA Units, the order will still show Pending status."
  • My response: "The issue is not that their credit card isn’t working. The issue is that they purposely purchased all of our inventory to hold it, so we couldn’t get sales. The fact you responded with this message tells me you did not read the case. Please escalate to a management team member."
  • Amazon CSR response: "We realize your frustration and know that this is something very important to you. As our valued seller, your satisfaction is our top most priority and we certainly do not intend to cause inconvenience to you. Upon careful review we have identified that the order has not shipped because we haven’t received payment authorization from the buyer. We were unable to authorize the buyer's payment method. We have notified the buyer and are trying to secure payment authorization. The buyer has been notified that the order can’t be completed until their payment information has been updated. Note: If we cannot verify the payment method within 7 days of the sale date, we will cancel the order and the item will be 'Fulfillable' in your Inventory Amazon Fulfills page. In some cases, our payment and order detail verification processes can potentially extend order processing times for as long as 21 days. While an order is pending, the ordered item is listed as Reserved on your Inventory Amazon Fulfills page."

As you can imagine, I'm getting mad now. Not only is someone hijacking our inventory, but Amazon Seller Support is absolutely useless.

  • My response: "What part of my case are you guys not understanding? Someone is placing orders for all my inventory purposely to hold in pending status. You’ve asked for a screenshot of the error when reporting, yet that screenshot is already attached to the case. It is very discouraging Amazon partner support can not solve problems but only send template responses. Whoever is placing these orders is violating Amazon policies and yet you keep telling me why the order is pending. Like a said in response to the last email, escalate this to a USA manager."
  • Amazon CSR response: "We have reviewed your mail and understand that you are facing an issue related to the Order pending issues. We need additional information from you. Please provide ASIN(s) of the orders you are facing issue with. We request you to take this extra step and provide us the valuable information, so as to find the root cause and resolve it. We appreciate your patience and cooperation with us in this regard and shall proceed further once we receive update from you. Have a nice day."

Yet again, the rep asks for information already provided. I sent a screenshot of all orders with the ASIN clearly visible.

I attempted to resolve this via phone call for the next two hours and got put on hold for 45 mins, and they never came back to the phone. Then called back, was put on hold for 10 minutes and the phone call dropped. (Probably on purpose)

If you made it to the end of this post, congrats! I wish Seller Support read the entire case log before replying with auto-templates and never solving actual problems. In closing, Our inventory is still on hold, awaiting Amazon to automatically cancel the orders in 7 days. We have reduced the max purchase quantity to 5 on every ASIN in that category.

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Seller_Sram36TnVt73c

They are trained to push back with any flimsy response or totally unrelated answers. I think they probably have to respond with SOMETHING every 3 days or so, lest their metrics take a hit.

You need to get beyond these seller 'support' people on the phone during US business hours. It's ridiculous to expect sellers to constantly sit on hold for 30 minutes each time while an incompetent SS rep pokes around, asking for the same info over and over while mumbling to themselves. The last rep i talked to was at the beach I think....you could hear the wind blowing across the phone...then again, perhaps her hut needed repairs.

As for your problem with competitors tying up your inventory: Can you apply a max order quantity on these listings? Buyers can still generate mulitple orders to order more, but that just makes their behavior look all the more suspicious if Amazon would ever look into this type of abuse.

Amazon needs to reduce the 7-day waiting period. i am not sure why they coddle people who have bad credit cards, but 7 days is way too long. 24 hours is too long. Where I come from, if you don't have the money, you don't have the right to hold a store's inventory hostage because you might pay some day.

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Seller_JELEnXFOrnw4L

"If you made it to the end of this post, congrats! I"

Yes, I made it.

"8 Figure Amazon seller", do you mean over $10 MILLION, per year?

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Seller_M5hVBXP3buNvF

We deal with the same issues as well. I recommend setting an upper limit to the maximum a customer can buy. I set mine to five when I was going through this and my pending orders exploded.

This slows them down enough that you can just increase the qty. Additionally, set your quantity to 100,000 and just let them add the max to their cart and checkout.

Best of luck. Selling on amazon is regarded...

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Seller_08TZq9sOIaGvv

so, let me get this straight, you would like to purchase a large quantity of items and are having trouble with your credit card? Please say "yes" or "correct".

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JohnnyD

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Seller_0qyRtqm32cQSi

This is such a good case study in the inadequacies of seller support.

Seller Support is essentially useless in any issue for which there is not a crystal clear policy/process. Exception handling? Forget it.

I've been trying to explain to them that the output of one of the inventory reports is broken for 2 weeks and I can't get them to understand or escalate appropriately for the life of me....

Their Response? Auto case closure because I identified the error by comparing two reports that are not meant to be compared... Frankly the copy paste response (after all the work I've done to describe the case and include examples) is an insult to my intelligence and despite all the pleasantries in the email a clear indication of the fact that they do not actually value me or my time. I've been using these reports for almost 10 years and I can guarantee I understand the intended output better than they do...

I'm not sure if they are trained to avoid escalation or if it's frowned upon but just getting them to escalate a case is like pulling teeth. Worse still, as of lately I've noticed their "Escalations Department" to be providing the same copy paste responses anyways.

My guess, they farmed our Seller Support to 3rd parties overseas whose primary goal is to retain their contracts with Amazon and so they show off their case closure rates.. and do anything they can not to have to escalate to Amazon US... they've got it handled (at our expense)

Maybe if enough of us start giving feedback on the case handling the message will get to the executive team... or hopefully a mod sees this cause they've actually been an awesome channel to escalate more complex issues

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Seller_xQAqE6K0eSCBc

amazon does not care how much you sell. we are all treated the same. all cases are designed to be closed as fast as possible. reps are scored and and rewarded by how fast they simply close a case. they are not trying to help with the problem and have no interest in even understanding.

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Seller_I2VicKYwfCNhg

Maybe you can change the maximum order quantity on the offerings so your competitors cannot hold your inventory as easily. Not a fix, but if it slows them down... Set a max of 3 items per buyer, assuming you have thousands of whatever you sell in FBA... would definitely make it harder to hold all of your inventory.

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