OSS and IOSS do I need to register using EFN?

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OSS and IOSS do I need to register using EFN?

Hi,

I’ve researched high and low and just not finding what I am looking for.

I have a UK VAT number and sell FBA Small & light, I have VAT in France where I ship items and store items, I also have a VAT number in Germany. I will be using PanEU for Germany and France, but to get the local selling fee rates for Germany, I also need active listings in Spain and Italy which means at the moment I’m going to have to use EFN for both of them countries.

Now I understand EU vat laws have changed where Amazon now uses OSS to collect and pay VAT from our sales, so does this mean I can take part and sell anywhere in the EU using Amazon EFN and I don’t need to signup with OSS or IOSS so I don’t have to do anything vat related with them sales at all as amazon is doing that instead of me, am I correct?

Much appreciated for you help.

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Seller_qZO3ZCjoBXEeL

This has been subject of some discussion. @Paul73 has hit OSS/VAT issues with PanEU EFN and 3rd country VAT liabilities. He’s been getting mixed signals where one says he needs to register for OSS and another says not. What I have read says that you need to register for OSS when fulfilling goods within the EU from an EU country as a base when not being actually resident in the EU.

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Seller_Yja9oH7DLHk2I

I have now been notified that I am registered for OSS. The number they have given me is the same as my German VAT number.

The next challenge is to work out how to make Amazon aware I am registered for OSS so that the VAT transactions report reflects the new countries that need the VAT.

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Seller_Yja9oH7DLHk2I

I have just had a reply from Seller Support who have now changed their mind and they tell me the OSS number can not be uploaded to Amazon.

This would mean the Vat Transactions report is wrong. If a Swedish customer buys an item shipped from Germany the AVT report would say the VAT should be paid to Germany and Avalara would process this accordingly. I would need to pay the VAT through OSS to Sweden thus paying VAT twice which is clearly wrong.

I have tried again with Seller Support to see if I can get a different answer.

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Seller_Yja9oH7DLHk2I

An update.

I have spoken to someone in VAT services who contacted me for feedback. I gave him feedback.

He confirmed which of the 3 different answers seller support gave mis is correct.

It is not possible for a GB company to upload an OSS number into the system. This means the AVT report will not reflect the OSS registration and VAT will need to be paid twice.

He said he would take the information and thought a solution could be developed within a month.

I said my Swedish account would be suspended before then and he said unfortunately he could not do anything about that as it is automated.

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