VTR Issue and A-Z Claims

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VTR Issue and A-Z Claims

Hoping someone else is in the same boat to shed some light here..

We started using a courier called ArrowXL (2-Man logistic company in the UK) under their 'Diary' and '48hr' services, as we sell large appliances that require a 2 man lift. Ironically, this is a courier Amazon uses for Seller Flex, and they still can't sort the tracking system out!!!

We have had a major issue with our VTR % as Amazon are not 'recognising' the tracking number as valid, despite entering all the correct details, We opened a case in February 2024 stating the issues we are having and after getting through the generic 'Are you sure you're entering the correct details' 'No special characters' etc.. We got through to an 'escalated' team, who have sent us the standard template message for the last 5 months stating 'We are looking into your issue, we will provide an update shortly. Thankyou for your continued patience'

The VTR% we can live with, as we send some items with UPS that track properly so despite our VTR being below the threshold (Around 70%), we still get the buy box as it is our own brand, and we still get sales as usual, however, our issue stands with Amazon notifying customers that the item is delayed, providing incorrect information, random delivery dates (despite the customers being required to book the delivery in and choosing their own delivery date with the courier prior to the delivery taking place) followed by the message, if you do not receive your item, come back here the next day for a refund. The customers then come through to us with a template message, 'Order x Not received, please provide a full refund for my order'

Most of the time if we get this through we can reply to the customer with the proof of delivery photos from the courier and this is enough to encourage the customer to not defraud us and proceed with an A-Z claim, but some despite seeing the fireplace inside their own home, their signature and a GPS co-ordinate pin dropped on their house from where the photo was taken, all provided by the courier, they still proceed with an A-Z claim.

Unfortunately, as the tracking info is not recognised by Amazon the A-Z claims instantly get approved, and we are debited the full amount plus shipping if applicable. Meaning to date we are in excess of £2,000 down plus the item values because of amazons issue with sorting a carriers tracking details, a carrier that is registered on the confirm shipping tab and is used by their internal Seller Flex program. Not only this, our account health takes an unnecessary hit due to the A-Z claims..

We have appealed every A-Z claim to no avail, sent numerous emails to the MD email requesting an update after the 2 day period no response as advised on the automated reply. Tired of chasing my tail for fraudsters on Amazon where we as sellers don't seem to get any support, or pathway to fight online fraud due to Amazons policies. We provide amazon in excess of £10k per fortnight through sales referral fees incurred through Amazon UK, and they treat us like this?

Any assistance would be appreciated. Anyone have any support ideas? Amazon support mods?

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Winston_Amazon

Hello @Seller_s9KNnxjDTYNS4,

Can you share some order ids with me please and I can see what I can do from my end.

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We have a similar issue with VTR and Amazon not tracking the courier DX correctly, even though that courier is in their list of suitable couriers.

The whole VTR system is pointless for both customers and sellers, all it seems to encourage is fraud by some customers. Amazon seems to enjoy punishing sellers for things completely out of their control.

On a monthly, we have to appeal VTR, often this is successful. However, lately, they have started refusing to accept the evidence that shows everything was despatched and delivered on time. Luckily, even though many try their luck to claim non-delivery, most customers accept the proof of delivery and we rarely get an A-Z claim. We had a single instance of an A-Z back last year due to this nonesense.

Amazon needs to seriously knuckle down on the issues with their tracking system, and stop punishing sellers for problems caused by their flawed tracking system. Even better, they should do away with VTR as a whole. It's a complete farce.

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@Winston_Amazon

/ @Julia_Amazon

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/ @Simon_Amazon

Mods, please can you take a look into this as it is concerning with the information provided nothing has been done.

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