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Seller_ZVAz3d5lZuGid

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@Julia_Amazon @Ezra_Amazon and any other mods.

Can I ask you to check out this thread about the continuing emails that Amazon send out, prompting customers to ask for a refund as their item may be lost. This simply encourages fraudulent claims, and it is so obvious that the supposed claims of INR are far more frequent on Amazon than other platforms or sellers own websites.

https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/seller-forums/discussions/t/96f65b2a-63fb-43b6-8a9b-d2530dd1d61b

Has this issue been forwarded/escalated to the relevant department, as was advised, that can look into this ? Thank you.

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Seller_ZJhFeE3tNKzfh

Might be worth everyone sharing what their percentage of lost item claims are on amazon vs the rest of their platform sales!

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Seller_ZQyopdiwkUHOZ

We're using fully tracked, so not representative of most sellers, but even then our INR claim rate is higher on Amazon than anywhere else.

Amazon has roughly 4 times the rate of INR from Ebay over the last 6 months, and we haven't had a single INR from our website sales in that time period.

Back when we were using RM24, the difference was even more stark. I don't have exact figures, but it was several times more than we're receiving now.

A metric the mods should be interested in, since using fully tracked our rate of INR claims for Ebay hasn't changed. Our rate of INR claims on Amazon has dropped to a fraction of what it was. For every 1 we get now, we were getting 5 or 6 previously.

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Seller_3wd6FdPdrE7ru

Yes i have never had so many claiming refunds and customers stating Amazon say i can get the refund.

Also a couple of emails from customer's stating they have received their order, so i would say they have had the email to say its lost or claim refund.

I am using Amazon shipping for small letter , Amazon knows these are not scanned so why keep encouraging this fraudulent activity

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Spencer_Amazon

Hello @Seller_ZVAz3d5lZuGid,

Thank you for posting this, Amazon is aware of the situation and have been diligently on a solution. I will forward this again.

In the mean time, @all sellers, feel free to add order IDs here if you can and I will compile them.

Regards, Spencer

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Seller_ZVAz3d5lZuGid

The only solution would be for Amazon to simply STOP sending those emails. If it is a genuine INR then most customers would contact the seller anyway. That is born out by the number of customers who are honest and say they have received the email and HAVE received their order. There is no need to put the option of making a false claim into the mind of the customer.

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Seller_5BmbL9wJF7d3W

These are some of my order IDs over the last year where tracking shows the item is delivered but customer claims they haven't received and asked for refund:

206-2789729-3690726

026-4644583-3294742

206-4882936-4869134

205-9865006-0010742

202-6563013-8037152

202-6279827-2794762

203-3026214-9733124

206-3024208-1671514

203-4220496-3914727

203-7555520-8329100

203-8158832-6469914

202-8456207-9809950

205-3713144-8918733

203-7074257-5512350

205-9344503-0296312

205-8693242-1213149

206-6914064-7949152

204-5689165-9981926

205-5432898-4721928

206-8451973-8072335

205-1200443-1723551

204-6038338-6606769

205-1807273-5750734

026-2215689-7002739

205-8801335-3140330

206-1657137-8986716

202-0903878-3060311

202-9612293-7465912

205-1174350-4058759

205-7442815-2470741

204-9748008-3882714

204-2756562-3709158

205-3972434-8681152

203-0839649-6617943

202-8584578-6929952

203-1611422-1211506

204-6904471-3372306

205-7572011-8186704

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Seller_3wd6FdPdrE7ru

This is the message from the customer for order 206-8985507-4626756

¹card received safely6days ago. (customer)

Thank you for letting me know your card arrived with you, did you receive an email from Amazon to say otherwise

Regards Rachel (me)

03-Feb-2025 09:35 Received text saying package could be lost. (customer)

This is a honest buyer letting me know the card arrived with them 6 days before they get amazon message saying lost!!!

Why are you sending these out, if the customer as a problem they will contact the seller and the seller then deals sorts it out

Regards Rachel

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Seller_ZVAz3d5lZuGid

"if the customer as a problem they will contact the seller "

That is what I have said all along. If a customer GENUINELY has not received their order, they will contact the seller - they do not need prompting by a spurious email from Amazon.

@Julia_Amazon @Ezra_Amazon @Spencer_Amazon (I realise you have already replied to this thread - thank you).

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Seller_apScfMT57YPws

Listed order IDs below

206-1731855-5535510

202-9019087-2055537

202-3247383-5646764

026-7423219-7608345

203-4357247-0590756

205-6747784-5413918

202-9168370-6709915

205-9120373-4236358

202-9286340-5324351

202-8765971-0473910

206-2048399-3185969

205-6772930-3038729

202-4683110-0697957

203-6723412-5793152

204-5603068-1480364

203-4691426-9280316

202-8685279-6635521

205-7659512-2352343

206-9491340-5319543

026-2430993-3458764

206-9905059-9008349

205-7350604-4060352

026-8899804-5808336

206-5074238-3726766

204-9131538-0521167

206-9271730-6743512

205-6260820-0501159

202-4616486-4803506

203-8929675-8830725

204-9532348-3435538

026-4826305-3966764

026-9391252-0865159

206-8128780-7945944

206-4995981-2613953

205-0950518-6983518

206-5285554-4543534

026-4467497-2509136

205-3395902-0005944

203-6340898-5081159

205-1580324-2578721

203-3261109-9966727

026-1521160-8357128

203-3149862-6801967

204-0746189-7047500

206-3167154-5283560

204-5464513-4525112

202-0011678-1721155

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Seller_apScfMT57YPws

listed order IDs below

206-1731855-5535510

202-9019087-2055537

202-3247383-5646764

026-7423219-7608345

203-4357247-0590756

205-6747784-5413918

202-9168370-6709915

205-9120373-4236358

202-9286340-5324351

202-8765971-0473910

206-2048399-3185969

205-6772930-3038729

202-4683110-0697957

203-6723412-5793152

204-5603068-1480364

203-4691426-9280316

202-8685279-6635521

205-7659512-2352343

206-9491340-5319543

026-2430993-3458764

206-9905059-9008349

205-7350604-4060352

026-8899804-5808336

206-5074238-3726766

204-9131538-0521167

206-9271730-6743512

205-6260820-0501159

202-4616486-4803506

203-8929675-8830725

204-9532348-3435538

026-4826305-3966764

026-9391252-0865159

206-8128780-7945944

206-4995981-2613953

205-0950518-6983518

206-5285554-4543534

026-4467497-2509136

205-3395902-0005944

203-6340898-5081159

205-1580324-2578721

203-3261109-9966727

026-1521160-8357128

203-3149862-6801967

204-0746189-7047500

206-3167154-5283560

204-5464513-4525112

202-0011678-1721155

I have at least another 100, I have already raised this with support before and have raised it again

Case id 10794736922

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Seller_ZVAz3d5lZuGid

This situation is becoming out of hand (IMO). Amazon are complicit in encouraging customers to make fraudulent claims.

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Seller_ZVAz3d5lZuGid

" Amazon is aware of the situation and have been diligently on a solution. I will forward this again."

Hopefully that has been done. As has been said, the ONLY way to stop this is for Amazon to STOP sending these emails. The onus should be on the customer to report if they have not received their order, it is not Amazon's responsibility to prompt them to make fraudulent claims.

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Seller_RguKGMHvWFmo3

Not on the High Street

ZERO - INR

Ebay

ZERO - INR

OTHER PLATFORMS

ZERO -INR

AMAZON - A DAILY OCCURANCE

How can that be @amazon

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