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VTR calculations, what am I missing here?

I just opened a case, anyone know what is happening here …

“Why do I have the following VTR - Number of non-exempted shipments: 17,
but there are only 8 non exempted shipments on the VTR,
Also why does my VTR report state - Shipments with valid tracking: 9, when I have NOT used tracked services?
I have temporarily put holiday settings on as there seems to be errors in the calculations and I do not want the situation to decline.”

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Seller_7VbclcPFFRTnc

Several have reported having a positive number of non exempted shipments when they don’t send with any tracking.

How exactly do you ship all your items ?
Where do you purchase and what service ?

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Seller_DTufFoxJuMU0M

I have 46 with valid tracking, yet somehow they are using 62 orders with tracking in the same time period to work out my OTDR which is apparently 100%.

Like you I send nothing tracked - unfortunately you can’t seem to download a report of completed orders to see where these tracking numbers come from (or why they don’t even match each other)

Its so hard to work out what’s going or who is even to blame when we can’t even get a proper report :frowning:

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Seller_Iti0OkAyMPN7I

I also have an open case where Royal Mail have confirmed the codes are Valid yet Amazon seem to think they are not, after to usual to and fro with the SS they have finally escalated it hopefully an explanation will be forthcoming

Hello from Amazon Selling Partner Support,

Please be informed that I have contacted our concerned team in this regard and they are investigating the issue .

We will update you on the progress of these investigations as soon as we have additional information.

Thank you for selling with Amazon.

Anastasia A.

Amazon.co.uk Seller Support

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Seller_HsagIEnx9CZor

Hi,
I bought 2nd class recorded shipment labels through Amazon shipment service.
Tracking number KB591190861GB Accepted at Post Office on 22/03/21 but not delivered.
This shipment has been count as non-exempted shipment because the promised delivery date is 26/03/21.

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Seller_Rds42gzScDQFa

And you’re querying this???

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Seller_rGNl7DgMf1CPH

I use click and drop. Every item is tracked and the tracking number is automatically uploaded to Amazon when the lable is printed.

Amazon now tell me that I should manually upload the tracking number as the Royal Mail are making mistakes when they do it automatically. (Well at least 20% of the time from my VTR results)

I believe that Amazon are a bit like the Tory party, they never own up to a mistake and always pass the buck.

I am doing no more, if they kick me out I will just go.

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Seller_PaMxHDs3aFvn5

ive sent everything signed for royal mail the past month, all is exempt apart from 3 hermes deliveries i did which has given me 100%. i’m sure signed for was non exempt before!

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Seller_4wvvlzteKjg62

VTR…???/…Ive been chasing my tail for weeks now …trying to understand how it all works…

ive opened numerous cases but the answers are vague and in a language i dont understand …

Its all very frustrating…
Its a Shame you cant get to speak to "One of The Team "…who ever they are …???

Good Luck …I’m at the end of my patience with it all …

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Seller_HsagIEnx9CZor

Hello from Amazon Selling Partner Support. My name is Rod, how may I help you today?

The following items are not included in the VTR calculation:

Domestic items delivered by carrier/delivery service provider not integrated with Amazon

Domestic items delivered with untracked delivery services/delivery methods

Digital products, e.g. audio book

Rodymel: I understand your concern and I will personally attend to your matter and assure you to provide you quality service.

Me: If I buy 1st class stamps at Post Office it will be not included in the VTR calculation

Rodymel: i SEE

I see*

in regards with VTR please see this reference

https://sellercentral-europe.amazon.com…(See full link)

Me: Please answer the question yes or no

Rodymel: Using a carrier that is not integrated by Amazon will result in an invalid tracking ID, as Amazon will not receive updated tracking status of the package.

Me: Amazon policy

The following items are not included in the VTR calculation:

Domestic items delivered by carrier/delivery service provider not integrated with Amazon

Domestic items delivered with untracked delivery services/delivery methods

Rodymel: Tracking numbers are only considered valid if they have at least one carrier scan recorded by Amazon.

Me: I have bought postage service thru Amazon delivery service. The parcel have been scaned by carrier but not delivered or not signed and it says it is invalid tracking

Rodymel: May I place this chat on hold for 1-2 minutes while I check on your account?

Me: I already got the answer if no delivery confirmation the shipment will be count invalid.

Does not mate what you bought shipment label thru Amazon delivery service.

Rodymel: Thank you for waiting

it shows here

Sellers are encouraged to use carriers from the following lists to deliver their packages as these carriers provide real-time tracking status to Amazon. This helps reduce buyer contacts and improve seller feedback ratings. The following carriers are integrated with Amazon: AAA Cooper, ABG, Adrexo, Alljoy, AO, Aolde, Aoluk, Arrow, Arrow UK, AT Post, Australia Post, Belgian Post, Bestbuy, BJS, Bluedart, BRT, Celeritas, Centex, China Post, Chronopost, Cititran, CNE Express, City Link Coliposte, Colissimo, Correos, Correos Express, CTT Express, DBSA, DB-Schenker, Delhivery, Deutsche Post, DHL, DHL Ecommerce, DHL Home Delivery, DHL DE, DHL HB, DHL NL, DHL Parcel, DHL US, DPD, DPD DE, DPD FR, DPD UK, DPGM, DSV, Dtdc, DX Freight, Emirates Post, Energo , Energos, Envialia, Estafeta, Estes Express, Fastway, FDXG, Fedex, Fedex Freight, Firstmile, Furdeco, Gati, Gel, GEL Express, Geodis, GlS, GlS ES, GlS IT, Hermes, Hermes Einrichtungs Service, Hermes UK, Hmshb, Home Logistics, ICC, IDS, India Post, Janio, Japan Post, JCEX, JP Express, Katolec, KNA, Kuehne Nagel, La Poste, MRW, Nexive, Ninjavan, NL Post, Panther, Parcel Force, Pilot Freight, PLTA, Poste Italiane, Q Express, Q Xpress, R+L Carriers, Raben, RBNA, Rhenus, Rieck, Roadrunner, Royal Mail, RPDA, SAIA, SDA, SEFL, Seino, Seur, SF Express, SFC, Singapore Post, Speedex, Startrack, SWA, Teleflora, Tipsa, TNT, TNT IT, TNT NL, TNT UK, TNTA, Tourline Express, Tuffnells, UPS, UPS Freight, USPS, VIR, Vnlin, Wanbang, Watkins, WINIT, XPO, XDP, Yamato, Yanwen, YDH, Yellow Freight, Yodel, Yun Express, Yurtici, 4PX

Rodymel: Okay

Best Practices to Successfully Upload Tracking Information

Tracking number – Verify:

You entered the tracking number correctly.

You did not leave the tracking information blank.

You did not enter special characters (such as punctuation), which our system cannot recognise in the tracking information.

Carrier Name – Verify:

You selected a carrier from the drop-down menu in the Manage Orders page.

Confirm multiple order dispatches with feeds

You entered the concrete carrier name

If the carrier name is misspelled, entered in a different language or contains any extra words, the tracking will be marked as invalid.

The carrier name you entered is associated with the tracking number you entered

For example, if you use DHL to deliver a package, but enter ‘FedEx’ as the carrier name, the tracking will be marked as invalid.

You are using a carrier that is integrated with Amazon.

Dispatch confirmation and Update:

Make sure to confirm/update the tracking information before the order is delivered.

If the tracking information is confirmed/updated after the order is delivered, that means the buyer was not able to track the order. This is not useful to the buyer, and the order will not count

Me: This service bought using BUY SHIPPING button on amazon seller center

Rodymel: just make sure it is included on the list of valid carriers

Me: Action on parcel 1

Print packing slip

Ship date

Thu, 25 Mar 2021

Shipping Carrier

Royal Mail

Tracking ID

KB580032913GB

Shipping service

Royal Mail Signed For 2nd Class Letter

Delivery label purchase

Package type:

Package

Dimensions (LWH):

18.0 x 13.0 x 0.5 CM

Package weight:

0.0 KG 22.0 G

Shipping Label :

£2.06

Total shipping cost :

£2.06

We’ve got it

Tracking no. KB580032913GB

Your item has been posted at a Post Office. As you’ve used our Royal Mail Signed For service, the next update you’ll see is after we’ve attempted to deliver to the recipient.

Rodymel: I understand

just make sure to follow this guidelines

https://sellercentral-europe.amazon.com…(See full link)

Me: This order Std UK Dom_1 29/03/2021 KB580032913GB

is invalid because not update that parcel delivered

What information is missing? when you buy shipping thru Amazon

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Seller_NoMNQDGnEW5Bx

If you buy 2nd Class signed for it should be exactly the same whether bought through amazon, rm or the post office, using buy shipping shouldn’t be an advantage.

In the same way as buying normal 2nd, buy shipping shouldn’t be a disadvantage.

(I know it is, this is just my opinion)

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