Pan EU VAT requirements
Hi
Could do with some help on VAT registration in the EU as a uk seller. Currently registered for and store inventory in Germany and France.
I have no listings in Italy and no inventory stored there. Under the new requirements coming in November 2021, do I need to be registered for vat in Italy?
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Seller_saK5Ah2SaNYjL
You must be VAT registered in DE, FR, IT, ES, CZ & PL to use PAN EU.
Seller_JIOiiEWBf3mIC
Why do you need to be registered in countries that you neither store inventory or have listings? That doesn’t make sense.
Seller_zhjiy4JuMEuyF
I only store in DE and FR and am VAT registered for just those countries. I also have listings in the other EU countries but no storage. As far as I know if you don’t store, you don’t need to be VAT registered. What are the November requirements you referred to?
Seller_saK5Ah2SaNYjL
You can have listing in FR & DE and only store stock those two countries. However you cannot use PAN EU.
Seller_Vb7VBx6mzvdLs
In an ideal world, you would only need to be VAT registered in the country you store stock in. Which works flawlessly until one day you have a customer from another country that also has Amazon warehouses and that customer will do a return. And the return will go to a warehouse close by, in that country. So now you have stock in that country and Amazon will ask for your VAT number for that country. It is not really stock just a unit returned and you did not allow that return to go there and it is certainly not fair but that is how it works.
Seller_saK5Ah2SaNYjL
@anon6722415 This happened last year and hundreds, if not thousands of accounts in Germany got suspended for not being VAT compliant. PAN EU means Amazon can store the stock anywhere they like. Most of our stock for Germany is stored in PL & CZ. No doubt because labour and storage are much cheaper there.
You can pick and choose to only sell in specific countries but you would have to send stock to those countries and have PAN EU turned off. I might have done this if getting stock into Germany wasn’t so difficult. For Germany, you need an Importer of Record (IoR) resident in Germany. 70% of our PAN EU sales are to Germany so I would have happily dropped the rest if we could have just been able to send stock there.
Seller_saK5Ah2SaNYjL
@UKTraveladaptors You are trying to find every reason to break the law. You will get your accounts suspended. Grateful to be rid of tax dodgers like you!
Seller_zhjiy4JuMEuyF
To be fair, I’m doing exactly the same as you @UKTraveladaptors. I have Pan EU enabled and I have deselected storage in all countries except FR and DE where I am VAT registered. I’m not aware that I’m doing anything wrong but happy to be shown otherwise. I believe you used to have to be VAT registered in every EU state for Pan EU but that’s no longer the case. Obviously I only get the Pan EU benefits and fees for those 2 countries.
Seller_saK5Ah2SaNYjL
Using PAN EU allows Amazon to store stock in CZ, PL, DE, FR, ES & IT. You need to turn off PAN EU if you are only storing in DE & FR.
Not true! To use PAN EU, you must be VAT reg in CZ, PL, DE, FR, ES & IT.
Seller_saK5Ah2SaNYjL
You don’t have to be VAT registered in all those countried UNLESS you are using PAN EU.
PAN EU means you are givng Amazon permission to store stock in CZ, PL, DE, FR, ES & IT, and they will!
