VAT Deregistration
Hello!
My question relates to EU VAT deregistration. I have decided to deregister from VAT in Germany, France, Italy, Poland and the Czech republic as we have not been able to trade in any of those countries.
After contacting Amazon, I have now received the required forms, but the Italian deregistration process requires a proof of ID. The requirements state that it has to be a passport or ID that is valid for at least 6 months (but no driving license)
The issue is that my passport expires in about a month’s time. It’s going to take time to renew my passport so in the meantime, if I don’t deregister in time, Amazon/ Avalara will charge me EUR 2000 + VAT to renew the subscription. My deadline is the 26th of This month.
Does anyone have any idea how I can get around this? No response from Avalara yet. I called the Italian tax office, the first time they hung up and the second time they said No English and hung up.
Thanks.
46 replies
Seller_wqciCXuQbNS4p
Either renew your passport in person, which will take a day of your time, or pay for an expedited passport renewal.
Either will be a darn site cheaper than paying Avalara for another year.
Seller_0jslSeKCtb1VJ
Can you please help provide the information and forms amazon gave you to deregister? I also contacted EU seller support about this and they said to contact Avask about it. But Avask wants to charge 100Euro per country to deregister.
Seller_mBYmuZuemARzE
We want to deregister for VAT from DE/FR if anyone has managed to do this themselves? I’ve already paid Avalara enough to do next to nothing this last year, so I don’t want to pay them more if it’s just some form filling!
Seller_BenkjLJbajJeo
It would be great if you could attach those deregistration forms to your post.
Seller_Zm6mSLypM9kp8
I deregistered for FR myself by sending email to this address: > siee.dinr@dgfip.finances.gouv.fr.
In first reply, they sent me a Form to fill (https://www.impots.gouv.fr/portail/files/formulaires/1986-sd/2019/1986-sd_2548.pdf) and send it back as scanned via email. They confirmed via email that the Deregistration has been successful.
For Italy, we posted a Deregistration form to Italy Tax Authority.
For CZ, I contacted via email (podatelna3201@fs.mfcr.cz>) but got a reply that I need to file for Deregistation via the Tax agent so paid 150 Euro to Avalara and they did it for me.
For DE, I am submitting null returns every quarter on elster.de as I intend to keep DE VAT in case I want to do business in EU via DE.
Thankfully I did not VAT register myself for Spain and Poland.
Seller_wzMv1PgSYffYK
Did anyone manage to find a way to deregister for Poland and Czech Republic without having to go through Avalara? Thanks
Seller_wzMv1PgSYffYK
Update -
I have managed to find contact information for Czech Republic and Poland and am hoping to de-register without Avalara for these countries.
I managed to submit a form to Czech Republic, but shortly afterwards received an email from Avalara saying this:
“The Czech Tax authorities contacted us and let us know you want to de-register from this country and because we hold the Power of attorney in this country they didn’t process your request.”
Has Avalara blocked my request to de-register because they have power of attorney and want to charge me? If so that is very bad!
Seller_wzMv1PgSYffYK
France Poland and Czech Republic all require monthly submission - I am assuming there is a submission window, so I am hoping that my de-registration is accepted before the submission window ends. If not - I have not made sales in any of the three countries so I can submit nil returns to these three (I have copies of past nil returns forms that Avalara submitted on my behalf, so can submit those.
Do you think I’m taking too much of a risk?
Seller_wzMv1PgSYffYK
Looks like it was too late to stop my VAT subscription cancellation. As of 01/04 Amazon has terminated my VAT services which means that Avalara can no longer deregister me for VAT or file my nil returns.
Therefore I will have to deregister for VAT and submit nil returns myself!
